May 29, 2008, 04:24 PM // 16:24
|
#61
|
Forge Runner
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Blighty
Guild: The Legion of the Blue Blade
Profession: R/Mo
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by upier
After the change to [Death Pact Signet] I don't see any reason to use it over [Flesh Of My Flesh] on heroes.
|
Its still OK as a no-energy hard res, but I have replaced it on my SS for [[Flesh Of My Flesh] to avoid DPS chains.
|
|
|
May 30, 2008, 01:53 AM // 01:53
|
#62
|
Major-General Awesome
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Event Organiser and IRC Tiger
Guild: Ex Talionis [Law], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] ̖̊̋̌̍̎̊̋&#
Profession: W/
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkSpirit
I see. I was looking for strong generic build, like sabway, that can be used for most HM areas but can be used in low corpse areas and doesnt require SY. Anyway thanks for sharing the build.
I had some success with a defensive version of Rac's Paragon builds though:
[SoP Motivation Paragon;OQCjUqnK6OubVsIuCniLyKY5NA]
[DA Command Paragon;OQCkUum45guk7mooCWRm82EWP2FG]
|
That "Motivation" paragon is pretty average. Needs either more Motivation, or less, because at the moment it's not worth the attribute spec. It at LEAST needs Ballad of Restoration, but I would also bring Chorus, for the casters to get healed. Also, the elite is bleh. Bring SoR, because the PvE version is good again.
|
|
|
May 30, 2008, 03:38 AM // 03:38
|
#63
|
Desert Nomad
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Redmond
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by fenix
That "Motivation" paragon is pretty average. Needs either more Motivation, or less, because at the moment it's not worth the attribute spec. It at LEAST needs Ballad of Restoration, but I would also bring Chorus, for the casters to get healed. Also, the elite is bleh. Bring SoR, because the PvE version is good again.
|
Sounds like the build that I tried before and discarded due to poor performance in Dalada Uplands HM where mass conditions are everywhere. Chorus heals the paragons by the way. Sab's N/Rt healer can spike heal much more than that within 20s, comparatively if I need a healer, I would bring the N/Rt. Besides, not every party member would need healing most of the time. Healing needs to be concentrated to those who really need it, not diluted to those who dont.
Last edited by DarkSpirit; May 30, 2008 at 03:46 AM // 03:46..
|
|
|
May 31, 2008, 01:32 PM // 13:32
|
#64
|
Banned
Join Date: Mar 2008
Guild: why should you kno? Oo
Profession: A/W
|
Yeah I think [flesh of my flesh] is aweasome, yes it costs enrgy and can kill the caster but no rechrge ressing is so great, DPS is good too.
|
|
|
Jun 01, 2008, 07:05 AM // 07:05
|
#65
|
Desert Nomad
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Redmond
|
I find that this build works better than the N/Rt restoration healer in general:
[build name="Ether Restoration Ele" prof=E/Rt box ene=12+1+3 res=12][Ether Renewal][Aura of Restoration][Weapon of Warding][Mend Body and Soul][Spirit Light][Protective Was Kaolai][Life][Death Pact Signet][/build]
...it is not dependent on Soul Reaping and the fiends/shamblings MM does not generate enough energy for the N/Rt healer sometimes, unlike the bone minions MM.
And my SS is starting to looking like that:
[build name="SS Channel Curse Necro" prof=N/Rt box sou=8+1 cur=12+1+1 cha=10][Ancestors' Rage][Weaken Armor][Defile Defenses][Barbs][Rip Enchantment][Enfeebling Blood][Signet of Lost Souls][Splinter Weapon][/build]
...yes, no elite but I like AR. Especially when I am playing my warrior.
Last edited by DarkSpirit; Jun 01, 2008 at 08:11 AM // 08:11..
|
|
|
Jun 01, 2008, 05:01 PM // 17:01
|
#66
|
Frost Gate Guardian
|
I am necro whats for my the best choice wich heroes to take with?
|
|
|
Jun 01, 2008, 05:38 PM // 17:38
|
#67
|
Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Jan 2006
Profession: R/
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Necromanz
I am necro whats for my the best choice wich heroes to take with?
|
You can either run as the SS necro or the N/Rt healer, then the other slot is totally up to you.
|
|
|
Jun 01, 2008, 06:23 PM // 18:23
|
#68
|
Desert Nomad
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Redmond
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Necromanz
I am necro whats for my the best choice wich heroes to take with?
|
I would replace the curse necro hero with a [[Cruel Spear] or [[Stunning Strike] Paragon, something like:
[Cruel Spear Paragon;OQCjUumI6SubMYBZiiWYVYXYybA]
...and I would make my necro character into a curse necro, something like:
[AP Curse Necro;OAdTYwD7VaBqMwOIRYXMmUu0SAA]
Last edited by DarkSpirit; Jun 01, 2008 at 06:34 PM // 18:34..
|
|
|
Jun 01, 2008, 06:56 PM // 18:56
|
#69
|
Frost Gate Guardian
|
Dark ... so:
- AP NUKER
- HERO: STUNNING STRIKE OR CRUEL SPEAR (whats the best choice?)
- HERO: MM
- HERO: N/RT HEALER WITH WoR
Is this ok?
|
|
|
Jun 01, 2008, 07:07 PM // 19:07
|
#70
|
Desert Nomad
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Redmond
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Necromanz
Dark ... so:
- AP NUKER
- HERO: STUNNING STRIKE OR CRUEL SPEAR (whats the best choice?)
- HERO: MM
- HERO: N/RT HEALER WITH WoR
Is this ok?
|
Sounds fine to me. Stunning Strike would give the awesome dazed condition but I am skeptical on how well hero Paragons use that so you may need some micro-managing if they dont use it well. Cruel Spear gives Deep Wound and nice damage.
|
|
|
Jun 01, 2008, 10:02 PM // 22:02
|
#72
|
Desert Nomad
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Redmond
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Necromanz
Than very much! Shouldnt I take a ele with ether renewal healer instead of the WoR healer??
|
You can try them both and see which one works better. I find the ether renewal healer works alittle better since he is not reliant on the Soul Reaping from the MM. But others may feel differently, I dont know.
|
|
|
Jun 02, 2008, 03:34 PM // 15:34
|
#73
|
Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: The netherlands
Profession: N/
|
dont know either about a paragon hero being able to use stunning strike but i know that a W/P is a real efficient daze-bot
|
|
|
Jun 02, 2008, 06:51 PM // 18:51
|
#74
|
Frost Gate Guardian
|
I think i take another teambuild the discord teambuild from cathode, i have all the skills now so i am testing it tomorrow... I think thats better then sabway but I dont know.
|
|
|
Jun 03, 2008, 10:12 PM // 22:12
|
#75
|
Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Apr 2005
Profession: W/R
|
I don't have factions, and was wondering if there is a monk build that works as a suitable sub for the N/Rt; I'm able to run the other two builds. I've been using Margrid with Ebon Dust Aura and Volley, which is a huge help against the melee destroyer units, and the healer hench. Any input is appreciated.
|
|
|
Jun 04, 2008, 08:29 AM // 08:29
|
#76
|
Desert Nomad
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Redmond
|
I like Dwayna's Sorrow for the secondary healing but I also like having the higher level minions and Aegis. This is what I ended up with:
[SS necro;OANDY5xdS5BlBMi2B7OGNVV7EA]
Replace Vengeance with Res Chant or another Res of your preference.
[Jagged MM;OANDUslfSLVTBKgoBLCJgBEVVA]
[Restore Healer;OAhjYghsoOYsMm0cyNMHnV1kLA]
Energy and Health are important to a healer, so I put in a Signet of Lost Souls, but you may have to set her to guard so she would use it.
Last edited by DarkSpirit; Jun 04, 2008 at 08:35 AM // 08:35..
|
|
|
Jun 04, 2008, 10:06 AM // 10:06
|
#77
|
Jungle Guide
Join Date: Sep 2005
Guild: nn
Profession: N/
|
I'm a necro, but I tend to run Ursan (commence flaming) and the 3 standard builds. I flag heroes back as i run in, just out of aggro, not bubble away, take all agrro. This way, A single target is much easier to heal. I used to run the SS myself and take a SoR para, but I think the new way is faster in all honesty.
|
|
|
Jun 04, 2008, 10:39 AM // 10:39
|
#78
|
Desert Nomad
|
Here are some other templates I sometimes run instead of the N/Rt.
[build prof=P/? spe=10+1+2 comma=9+1 mot=10+1 lea=7+1][Song of Restoration][Vicious Attack]["Go for the Eyes!"][Ballad of Restoration]["Never Surrender!"]["Fall Back!"][Aggressive Refrain][Signet of Return][/build]
[build prof=P/? spe=12+1+2 comma=9+1 lea=9+1][Cruel Spear][Vicious Attack]["Stand Your Ground!"]["Never Surrender!"][Anthem of Flame]["Fall Back!"][Aggressive Refrain][Signet of Return][/build]
[build prof=P/W tac=9 spe=12+1+2 lea=9+1][Stunning Strike][Vicious Attack][Blazing Spear]["For Great Justice!"]["Watch Yourself!"][Anthem of Flame][Aggressive Refrain][Signet of Return][/build]
I haven't ran a Monk hero for a while, but it'll free up the secondary on the MM. I'd try something like:
[build prof=Mo/E hea=12+1+1 pro=10+1 div=8+1][Light of Deliverance][Patient Spirit][Dwayna's Kiss][Cure Hex][Guardian][Protective Spirit][Aegis][Glyph of Lesser Energy][/build]
|
|
|
Jun 06, 2008, 11:52 AM // 11:52
|
#79
|
Academy Page
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: DK
Guild: [HATE]
Profession: E/
|
I know this is an old thread but i would like to know what items u use on the 3. Paragons if u can tell me Sab? xD .. Thx
Btw i love u N/Rt build GJ !
|
|
|
Jun 07, 2008, 06:20 AM // 06:20
|
#80
|
Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Jan 2007
Profession: W/
|
So any reason to use DPS over FomF or is it just personal preference? And to my understanding DPS doenst cause DP if u die under it so if u decide to rez in a fight and you get wiped with a DPS chain no real penalty. and if u survive the fight grats to you no penalty either. hmmm im kinda contradicting myself cuz i preferred FomF until now and rambling at the moment. Wanna clear this up for me?
|
|
|
Thread Tools |
|
Display Modes |
Linear Mode
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT. The time now is 06:34 AM // 06:34.
|